{"id":5858,"date":"2014-05-21T18:48:51","date_gmt":"2014-05-21T18:48:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/?p=5858"},"modified":"2017-11-25T14:24:43","modified_gmt":"2017-11-25T14:24:43","slug":"lost-river","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/?p=5858","title":{"rendered":"Lost River"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>how to catch a monster<\/p>\n<p>A fan of the universe of Gaspard No\u00eb, star Ryan Gosling has availed himself of the services of Beno\u00eet Debie, SBC, to create the visuals on his first, strange feature-length film that oscillates between social fable and fantasy story. &#8220;Lost River&#8221; is one of the most anticipated films in the \u201cUn certain regard\u201d selection this year at the 67th Cannes Film Festival.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-5859\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/\/2014\/05\/680x478-5-630x444.jpeg\" alt=\"680x478-5\" width=\"560\" height=\"394\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/680x478-5-630x444.jpeg 630w, https:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/680x478-5-300x211.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/680x478-5-600x423.jpeg 600w, https:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/680x478-5.jpeg 678w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 560px) 100vw, 560px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Interview conducted by Fran\u00e7ois Reumont for the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.afcinema.com\">AFC<\/a> and translated from French by Alex Raiffe.<\/p>\n<p>What attracted you to this project?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Beno\u00eet Debie: Its unexpected side. The film begins on a very \u201csocial\u201d and realistic tone with the story of a mother who lives in an economically devastated city (Detroit) and who barely gets by doing odd job after odd job to pay her bills and raise her children\u2026 and then gradually the film evolves into fantastic parallel universes that even I would call science fiction, and it was a super new experience for me to transmit this to the screen.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>How did you get in touch with one another about this movie?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>BD: I first met Ryan back in 1998. I happened to be in Los Angeles, and we met for a coffee. He already wanted to make a different first movie, but his busy schedule as an actor temporarily distracted him. We saw one another again in 2012 while I was colour timing Springbreakers, and then he had me read a new script &#8211; which was still being finished &#8211; but this time everything went much faster. The film was shot during the spring of 2013, produced by Marc Platt and Adam Siegel who had also produced Drive \u2013 very serious people.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>How is Ryan Gosling as a director?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>BD: Ryan is a pure cinephile. He has a solid visual universe, he cites many old films in black and white, with contrasting lights, things really made the old-fashioned way. As he has also worked with a lot of directors, one feels he has learned a lot from them.<\/p>\n<p>Personally, he immediately told me he was a fan of Enter the Void and you find in Lost River some colours or influences from Gaspard No\u00eb\u2019s film.<\/p>\n<p>Me, when I read the script, it made me think of Bill Henson\u2019s photography. He is an Australian artist who works a lot on long exposures, and who takes portraits of young people or landscapes at night with a very dreamlike rendering. And when I showed him these pictures, he said, \u201cthat\u2019s exactly what I want\u201d. So we started aiming for blackness and darkness&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>As I couldn\u2019t really consider filming using long exposure, or play around too much with the cameras, I turned towards ultra bright lenses that allowed me to shoot in extremely low light conditions, and to recreate a certain nocturnal ambience. In order to achieve this, I managed to have lent to me the first models of the Hawk Vintage 1.0 series. When the film was shot in May 2013, there were only three available lenses (25, 40, 65mm) and they were still working prototypes for the German engineers. But we still went with them, and they allowed us to get a lot of images out of nighttime scenes.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-5834\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/\/2014\/05\/1000332_544057049001014_267552923_n.png\" alt=\"1000332_544057049001014_267552923_n\" width=\"410\" height=\"549\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/1000332_544057049001014_267552923_n.png 410w, https:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/1000332_544057049001014_267552923_n-224x300.png 224w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 410px) 100vw, 410px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>What about the camera?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>BD: The film is a true patchwork quilt! Personally, I am very attached to silver-process film and I think nothing has yet provided an adequate replacement, and I try most of the time to fight for every project to be filmed using real negative. This was again the case on this film, which was mostly filmed in 35mm, but there are some scenes we shot using Ryan\u2019s Red Epic, including stolen shots or an underwater scene&#8230; The majority of the film was made with a Cooke S5 series, kitted out with the three Hawk 1.0 lenses, as well as a series of Russian anamorphic lenses I had already used on Springbreakers and that I mounted on the Red Epic. I love mixing formats and it is ultimately another artistic tool.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Didn\u2019t Ryan expect to shoot the film using his own camera?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>BD: Yes, of course he did! Ryan had bought the Epic in order to use it for his film. But as soon as we started talking, we exchanged our views, and he confessed that as an actor he was always a little bit lost on a digital shoot, especially because of the fact that the filmmakers never cut the camera&#8230; He felt that those never-ending takes were an obstacle to concentration on set. The feeling of rigorousness disappears\u2026 So he approved the choice of 35mm, and even beyond that, he was enough of a fundamentalist to forbid the on-set video assist! Finally after a few discussions, he consented to being supplied with a little Transvideo HF in order to check my framing, as well as one for the script supervisor who needed it for the inserts. But it was far from being the \u201cvideo village\u201d and the HD screen you now find on all digital films&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-5863\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/\/2014\/05\/680x478-1-630x442.jpeg\" alt=\"680x478-1\" width=\"560\" height=\"392\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/680x478-1-630x442.jpeg 630w, https:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/680x478-1-300x210.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/680x478-1-600x421.jpeg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 560px) 100vw, 560px\" \/> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-5862\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/\/2014\/05\/680x478-2-630x442.jpeg\" alt=\"680x478-2\" width=\"560\" height=\"392\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/680x478-2-630x442.jpeg 630w, https:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/680x478-2-300x210.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/680x478-2-600x421.jpeg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 560px) 100vw, 560px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>What about lighting?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>BD: Ryan loves blackness&#8230; And I must say that as he did Harmony Korine \u2013 the director of Springbreakers &#8211; he pushed me pretty far from a photographic point of view. This was even more bold on his part because the film was shot using film stock and it was his first time directing.<\/p>\n<p>Despite this, the producers gave us total freedom and nary a remark of the sort \u201cIsn\u2019t that a bit dark?\u201d I nonetheless took a little safety margin for Ryan in order to avoid any disappointments linked to the enthusiasm of one\u2019s first project, but I must say that the film is visually very anachronic compared to the average American production. To be frank, even compared to the films I made with Gaspard No\u00eb, this one is even blacker!<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>What about processing the images?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>BD: The film was shot in Detroit over a period of five weeks. As there hasn\u2019t been a lab open in Detroit for a long time now, we sent the footage to Los Angeles. They were returned via FTP the very next day, it was very efficient! The colour timing was done at Company 3 in Los Angeles. This is a lab that does very big films\u2026 While I was colour timing, in the room next door they were working on Transformers and X-Men!<\/p>\n<p>And I observed that coming to them with a little independent film was also a breath of fresh air for them&#8230; You are treated like royalty, and, frankly, the energy and personal commitment of the entire team are amazing. It was invaluable to us, and I don\u2019t believe that the equivalent exists in Europe.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>What about colour timing the images between the 35mm and the digital cameras?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>BD: Comparing different productions I\u2019ve worked on, I find that I always spend a lot more time colour timing a digital image than one generated by film. For example, I find myself calibrating a shot in which a fire truck passes by in the background with its lights flashing, moving from a very unrealistic mix of white colours to a mix of pink ones. The colour painter told me it is because the Epic\u2019s sensor.<\/p>\n<p>So you try to compensate, and to restore the image\u2026 In the end, if I spend fifteen minutes on a film image, I\u2019ll spend twice as long on a digital one. But you\u2019ve also got to admit that sometimes these strange reactions of the sensor truly serve the image. For example in the underwater shot filmed with Epic, the results were beautiful.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-5861\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/\/2014\/05\/680x478-3.jpeg\" alt=\"680x478-3\" width=\"679\" height=\"478\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/680x478-3.jpeg 679w, https:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/680x478-3-300x211.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/680x478-3-630x443.jpeg 630w, https:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/680x478-3-600x422.jpeg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 679px) 100vw, 679px\" \/> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-5860\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/\/2014\/05\/680x478-4.jpeg\" alt=\"680x478-4\" width=\"680\" height=\"478\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/680x478-4.jpeg 680w, https:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/680x478-4-300x210.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/680x478-4-630x442.jpeg 630w, https:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/680x478-4-600x421.jpeg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 680px) 100vw, 680px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>published with the kind permission of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.afcinema.com\" target=\"_blank\">AFC<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>how to catch a monster A fan of the universe of Gaspard No\u00eb, star Ryan Gosling has availed himself of the services of Beno\u00eet Debie, SBC, to create the visuals on his first, strange feature-length film that oscillates between social fable and fantasy story. &#8220;Lost River&#8221; is one of the&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":89,"featured_media":5833,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"rs_blank_template":"","rs_page_bg_color":"","slide_template_v7":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[42],"tags":[25,160,292,193],"class_list":["post-5858","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-productions","tag-benoit-debie","tag-cannes","tag-how-to-catch-a-monster","tag-ryan-gosling"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5858","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/89"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=5858"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5858\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":6832,"href":"https:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5858\/revisions\/6832"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/5833"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=5858"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=5858"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.sbcine.be\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=5858"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}